Has Democracy existed anywhere, anytime?

First, I want to recomend a book from Giovanni Sartori. The book is Democrazia: Cosa é ; a book where anyone can learn a lot about Democracy, the oldes Democracys, the new waves of political theory and many things more.

Then, I want to explain that the perfect Democracy that we have in mind when we think in the clasic Grecee is not a REAL Democracy, or it is not a Democracy following our nowaday concept of it.

For this explanation, we have to think in a Democracy in a Polis, and without Government. That's it, the oldest Democracy was buildt in a Polis and the Goverment ( burocracy ) didn't exist. Every one in the Polis were Citizane and Politician. More than that, the good Citizane was a good Politician, and the Citizane that did not care of the Polis was an idion ( a idiot, a fool, a useless Citizane).

This was posible because ( As Aristoteles explains) charges were very short in time and a Citizane couldn't be in a magistracy for more than one time ( Aristoteles- Politics).

Then the life for a Citizane was subornidate completly to the Polis, and the private life was a second issue. Evenmore, there were not private rights protected as nowadays. The freedom was more a right to vote and to participate in public life of the Polis.; a colective power, so there were not any INDIVIDUAL RIGHT, base of our nowadays Democracy.

So this "Democracy" was not a Democracy with freedom. Polis were buildt by the estructure of Citizanes, who were the Politicians and the Citizanes that have the rights, and slaves.

They wouldn't understand a Democracy where the single Citizane has the rights and not the comunity. For them, we are slaves in this Democracy.

Another fact is important, Polis were citys of a very low number of Citizanes, so a Democracy like that is only posible with low population. Athenas, grow up until 30,000 or 35,000 Citizanes; a Democracy like that wouldn't be able in our moderns Cities of millions of Citizanes.

So Greek Democracy was not a real Democracy. Is our Democracy a Real one? Is something I will explain in the future. I only have to tell you that Greek Democracy is an imposible and wrong Democracy nowadays; something that sometimes is ignored.

They had not private life, have we freedom? Not for them, and for our, them neither... Has Democracy existed?

Maybe human is a politic animal in a Polis ( As Aristoteles suggested) that can be free, or if human is an animal slave? Is freedom a dream, a false ideal? I think that we cannot be free in a Society, almost if human race do not change.

Therefore we are slaves in the city, slaves in public, slaves in the society. What is left then? I only can thin in one possibilty: To be free in our minds. Fight for be free almost in our mind, in our private sphere, and fight for more freedoom ( a freedoom that will never appear) in our public sphere.

Bellum Omnium Contra Omnes.